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    The Last of Us | The Last Of Us Part ll Passes 4.1 million Players in The First 3 Days Beating Out Spider-Man's 3.4m & God Of War's 2.7m


    The Last Of Us Part ll Passes 4.1 million Players in The First 3 Days Beating Out Spider-Man's 3.4m & God Of War's 2.7m

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 09:19 AM PDT

    You can love Joel as a character, and understand that he was a shitty human at the same time. That is character depth. There is no justification for his actions.

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 06:46 PM PDT

    Decades after the death of his daughter, Joel is still haunted. She died suddenly, crying in pain in his arms as he begs her to try to hold on. It's over and irreversible. He goes decades with a part of him completely destroyed. He meets Ellie, and the two of them slowly warm up to each other, and begin to care and rely on one another emotionally. Ellie eventually becomes the only thing that gives Joel the hope of truly healing. She literally becomes the most important thing in the world to him.

    When Joel is confronted with the reality that Ellie will have to be sacrificed for the chance at a potential cure, his only motivation and personal justification for tearing that chance away at Saint Mary's is that Ellie is the only thing he has ever found that gives him true happiness and healing. That is the only reason Joel did it, he wasn't thinking of the logistical problems of a vaccine in the current world and how "dog eat dog" it is. Once a vaccine is created, overwhelming hope would have been inspired throughout the world. A cure would have been nothing less than a miracle after decades of incomprehensible fear and suffering. The fireflies would become a unifying force and a real beacon of hope, people would join them. Would there still be horrible, evil people in the world? Of course, the world will not go back to what it used to be, nobody expects it to, suffering will continue for years, but those who are still alive, those who want better for the world and are willing to work together would begin to take steps forward. The Fireflies, WLF, Jackson, even the Seraphites, are all examples of people who came together to build something better. Were there not incredible logistical issues to establishing these communities? A common vision, safety, sustainability, a prophet, no matter what their reasoning was, they survived because something in the community gave them hope in a desolate world that seemed to have none. If the fireflies did create a cure, a truly deeper hope not yet felt among the people of the world would be ignited. Not a hope of simply surviving, but a hope of a future, a grand hope. The logistical problems would be undeniably heavy, but they can be eventually overcome. Joel wasn't thinking about how he would be giving the fireflies, a "terrorist" group access to the vaccine, he knew he would be doing that ever since he found out that Ellie was infected. Frankly these logistical problems are irrelevant. They don't hold weight in the story, they are not in the slightest a part of Joel's reasoning, the only justification he has is that he sees Ellie as a daughter, he sees her as a personal miracle. He doesn't care about what Ellie wants, this is for himself only. He doesn't approach this with an "Ellie deserves better" mindset, he approaches it with an "I want Ellie because its the only thing that makes me happy" mindset. If Ellie wanted to be sacrificed, he would do everything he could to stop it. People mention survivors guilt as a reason for why Ellie shouldn't be allowed to make the decision but does Ellie feeling survivor's guilt make her wish to be sacrificed after "Everything [she's] done" any less valid? No. Does it make Joel's decision any less valid? No.

    A cure is also a miracle, and the chance at a cure, even if it was a minuscule chance, even "if" there were previous failed attempts at a cure, is still hope, and it is worth taking the chance rather than resigning yourself to a depressed life of simply surviving because the cost of taking the chance is the life of a little girl. It is sad, it is a hard sacrifice to make, but that is why it's called a sacrifice. If you have another chance, even if the odds are against you, then you can't justify giving up simply because you have failed before. Humanity would not have made it this far if people thought like that. People have also mentioned that vaccines don't work on fungi, while I believe that the term "vaccine" is a filler word that isn't meant to be approached scientifically, it still did not weigh into Joel's decision. You can't justify killing people who wanted the best for the world by noting that they had failed previously. Joel wasn't thinking about these things, and he knows what he did was wrong. Joel wasn't thinking about previous failures. Joel wasn't thinking about whether or not Ellie's sacrifice would even result in a cure or not. Even if there was a 100% guarantee that a vaccine would be created, Joel would have done it, simply nothing mattered to him in that moment. There is not objective justification for Joel's actions, and he didn't need one. The only reasoning he needs and the only reasoning he uses is that he needs Ellie. This decision is not about the validity of the fireflies, but the depth of Joel and Ellie's connection.

    He did what he did not because of logistical issues or probability issues but only because of his emotions. What he did is understandable, the emotions he feels are palpable, the desperation for his own chance at healing is real and it is valid, but what he did is horrible, and it makes him a bad, selfish human being.

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    My arm is complete finally!

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 12:42 PM PDT

    Your “unpopular opinion” of loving The Last of Us Part II is NOT an unpopular opinion.

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 01:47 PM PDT

    So stop saying it is. Stop trying to be the "outcast". So many people love the game. Maybe more than the ones who hate it or are trolling. The haters are just louder. So stop.

    I don't know how many posts I've seen about "being scared to say you love it". Just stop. Who cares what you like. Who cares what you hate. Stop needing your views to be validated.

    I'm not trying to diminish your opinion, I too loved the game. But don't be afraid to say it or view it as unpopular. Just say what you feel.

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    Best note in the game, hands down

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 09:33 AM PDT

    Brighter Days

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 06:37 PM PDT

    I cried. A lot.

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 07:46 PM PDT

    I just finished the game. I managed to avoid all the spoilers and decided not too read too much into people's opinions of the game before I had my chance to play it. The last time a story made me feel this much, was the first one. If I could thank all who worked on this game personally I would. I can't describe how I feel with just one emotion. I absolutely loved the game.

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    I made this myself! c:

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 01:05 PM PDT

    This pretty much sums it up...

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 08:20 PM PDT

    TAKE ON ME

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 07:54 PM PDT

    Just scrolled through the hot posts currently. This is absolutely not true.

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 11:55 AM PDT

    This new merch is insane

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 09:38 AM PDT

    Possible Finding Nemo easter egg?

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 06:14 PM PDT

    My fan art illustration for The Last of Us Part II.

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 02:48 PM PDT

    This is literally going to even out to 50/50.. personally I think it was incredible, but this is the definition of love it or hate it

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 04:45 PM PDT

    Kinda Funny Games - Last of Us Part 2 Spoilercast w/ Neil Druckmann, Ashley Johnson, Troy Baker

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 09:49 AM PDT

    I feel like Gustavo doesn't get enough attention with his amazing work in the last of us 2. This game wouldn't be as scary/sad/uplifting without his art. Thank you Gustavo Santaolalla

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 08:16 AM PDT

    My puppy’s holding R1

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 07:00 PM PDT

    My heart rate before and during a particular boss fight (if you know you know)

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 10:28 AM PDT

    Say hi to Gustavo Santaolalla :)

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 12:51 PM PDT

    Troy Baker Thinks Josh Brolin should Play Joel in 'The Last of Us' HBO Series!

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 11:09 AM PDT

    I feel empty

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 06:10 PM PDT

    I've felt this before after finishing witcher 3 and red dead 2 but not on this level. This game man...its truly fantastic. I loved everything about it. I felt like I had to pick up my shattered heart after that ending. Its like theres a hole in my chest. How are you guys feeling after beating the game?

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    Aerial attacks are so satisfying.

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 10:41 AM PDT

    Future days

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 11:00 AM PDT

    I felt the need to meme something I've had on my mind for a while. Enjoy.

    Posted: 25 Jun 2020 09:41 PM PDT

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